zde<\/a>.<\/p>\nNyn\u00ed v\u00e1m p\u0159in\u00e1\u0161\u00edme druhou \u010d\u00e1st rozhovoru, kde se Bob Kartous sv\u011b\u0159il, jak prob\u00edh\u00e1 spolupr\u00e1ce PII se \u0161kolami, kde se inspiruj\u00ed a jak podporuj\u00ed v lidech kladn\u00fd vztah k inovac\u00edm.<\/p>\n
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Jak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem prob\u00edh\u00e1 spolupr\u00e1ce se \u0161kolami a jak by mohla vypadat spolupr\u00e1ce s humanitn\u00edmi a spole\u010densko-v\u011bdn\u00edmi \u0161kolami?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\nZat\u00edm jsme ve f\u00e1zi, \u017ee s vysok\u00fdmi \u0161kolami hled\u00e1me spole\u010dn\u00e9 projekty, se kter\u00fdmi bychom se mohli uch\u00e1zet o granty na lok\u00e1ln\u00ed, ale i mezin\u00e1rodn\u00ed \u00farovni. Te\u010f n\u00e1m schv\u00e1lili v r\u00e1mci jedn\u00e9 v\u00fdzvy evropsk\u00e9 komise tzv. Evropsk\u00fd digit\u00e1ln\u00ed inova\u010dn\u00ed hub, ve kter\u00e9m jsme v r\u00e1mci konsorcia veden\u00e9ho \u010cVUT v roli aplika\u010dn\u00edho garanta pro Prahu. Krom\u011b jin\u00e9ho je tam \u0160koda Mlad\u00e1 Boleslav, Oper\u00e1tor ICT za Prahu, Prague AI a dal\u0161\u00ed. Ur\u010dit\u011b chceme j\u00edt ale n\u011bjakou spole\u010dnou cestou i v oblasti kulturn\u00edho a kreativn\u00edho pr\u016fmyslu. Praha si ale na to z\u0159\u00eddila organizaci Kreativn\u00ed Praha, co\u017e je organizace men\u0161\u00ed, ne\u017e jsme my, ale tohle je jej\u00ed oblast. Do budoucna si v\u0161ak ur\u010dit\u011b dok\u00e1\u017eu p\u0159edstavit, \u017ee se poda\u0159\u00ed n\u011bco s um\u011blecky, spole\u010denskov\u011bdn\u011b, nebo humanitn\u011b zam\u011b\u0159en\u00fdmi \u0161kolami ud\u011blat.<\/span>
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\n<\/span>B\u011bhem covidu tady byla relativn\u011b velk\u00e1 popt\u00e1vka po \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed t\u00fdkaj\u00edc\u00edch se dezinformac\u00edm a my jsme do \u010de\u0161tiny lokalizovali hru Go Viral!, kter\u00e1 vznikla na Cambridge University na zad\u00e1n\u00ed britsk\u00e9 vl\u00e1dy. Je to takzvan\u00e1 Serious game, kter\u00e1 prov\u00e1z\u00ed \u010dlov\u011bka, jako by byl dezinform\u00e1torem, procesem, kdy z\u00edsk\u00e1v\u00e1 \u010d\u00edm d\u00e1l v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed motivaci pro v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed manipulaci. K tomu je vysv\u011btlov\u00e1no, co ty lidi \u017eene, aby tak jednali. T\u00edm jsme p\u0159isp\u011bli k oblasti, kter\u00e1 se v\u00e1\u017ee ke spole\u010densk\u00fdm v\u011bd\u00e1m, ale to byl by-product, na kter\u00fd jsme dostali podporu od hlavn\u00edho m\u011bsta. K takov\u00fdm v\u011bcem ale pot\u0159ebujeme naj\u00edt r\u00e1mec a vehikl, na kter\u00fdm pojedeme.<\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n
Kdo by m\u011bl b\u00fdt t\u00edm, kdo p\u0159in\u00e1\u0161\u00ed motivaci a podporu student\u016fm pro podobn\u00e9 projekty?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\nTen hlavn\u00ed \u00fa\u010dinn\u00fd agent je \u0159editel \u010di \u0159editelka. Oni by m\u011bli hledat, jak studenty a studentky v tom podpo\u0159it. Probl\u00e9mem je, \u017ee p\u0159en\u00e1\u0161et tuto odpov\u011bdnost na u\u010ditele se v sou\u010dasnosti v\u011bt\u0161inou setk\u00e1 s ne\u00fasp\u011bchem. U\u010ditel\u00e9 k tomu, aby podporovali podnikavost sv\u00fdch \u017e\u00e1k\u016f, nejsou vybaveni. <\/span>
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\n<\/span>Domn\u00edv\u00e1m se, \u017ee pokud \u0159editel n\u011bco takov\u00e9ho chce podporovat, m\u011bl by nutn\u011b hledat extrakurikul\u00e1rn\u00ed prost\u0159edky, kter\u00e9 se nach\u00e1z\u00ed mimo \u0161kolu. My v r\u00e1mci podnikatelsko-inova\u010dn\u00edho centra chceme rozjet projekt, kter\u00fd se jmenuje Tiimiakatemia, co\u017e je z fin\u0161tiny t\u00fdmov\u00e1 akademie. Je to ro\u010dn\u00ed kurz, kdy se \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edk na za\u010d\u00e1tku stane sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed t\u00fdmu a ten t\u00fdm hned zalo\u017e\u00ed organizaci. Pak teprve ten t\u00fdm hled\u00e1, co bude organizace d\u011blat. V\u00fdsledkem ro\u010dn\u00edho kurzu je pak v\u017edy funk\u010dn\u00ed organizace. To je zku\u0161enost man\u017eel\u016f \u0160vecov\u00fdch, kte\u0159\u00ed tuto metodiku p\u0159ivezli z Finska a u\u017e ji tu n\u011bkolik let realizuj\u00ed na \u010cesk\u00e9 zem\u011bd\u011blsk\u00e9 univerzit\u011b. My ji chceme p\u0159en\u00e9st do podnikatelsko-inova\u010dn\u00edho centra, aby se mohli \u00fa\u010dastnit studenti st\u0159edn\u00edch a vysok\u00fdch \u0161kol v Praze. Pova\u017eujeme tento postup za lep\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e to p\u0159en\u00e1\u0161et p\u0159\u00edmo do \u0161kol. Obsah \u0161koln\u00edho vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed je napln\u011bn jin\u00fdmi prioritami a u\u010ditel\u00e9 na to nejsou \u00fapln\u011b dob\u0159e p\u0159ipraveni.<\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n
Kde nach\u00e1z\u00edte inspiraci? M\u00e1te n\u011bjak\u00fd vzor fungov\u00e1n\u00ed \u0161kolstv\u00ed s ohledem na podnik\u00e1n\u00ed a inovace?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\nSkandin\u00e1vie je pro m\u011b osobn\u011b a pro \u010dlov\u011bka vn\u00edmaj\u00edc\u00edho \u0161ir\u0161\u00ed kontext spole\u010densk\u00e9ho rozvoje, a\u0165 u\u017e po str\u00e1nce vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed, soci\u00e1ln\u00ed \u010di ekonomick\u00e9, velkou inspirac\u00ed. Zem\u011b, kter\u00e9 jsou kulturn\u011b bli\u017e\u0161\u00ed skandin\u00e1vsk\u00fdm zem\u00edm jako Estonsko a Finsko jsou mnohem d\u00e1l ne\u017e t\u0159eba \u010cesk\u00e1 republika. Inspirace plyne odtud. Je to samoz\u0159ejm\u011b d\u00e1no ur\u010ditou mentalitou, ale ta nen\u00ed nutn\u011b tak vzd\u00e1len\u00e1 od mentality \u010cech\u016f. Existuj\u00ed ale v\u00fdznamn\u00e9 kulturn\u00ed rozd\u00edly. Nap\u0159\u00edklad je tam zaveden princip v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed m\u00edry odpov\u011bdnosti sama za sebe a z\u00e1rove\u0148 v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed m\u00edry odpov\u011bdnosti za spole\u010dnost, ve kter\u00e9 \u017eiji. Je to d\u00e1no historicky, m\u00e1 to n\u011bjak\u00fd kulturn\u00ed v\u00fdvoj a v r\u00e1mci Skandin\u00e1vie je to d\u00e1no i t\u0159eba ne zcela p\u0159\u00edzniv\u00fdm podneb\u00edm. \u0158ada t\u011bch zem\u00ed m\u00e1 historicky od dob Viking\u016f tendence se rozhl\u00ed\u017eet po hodn\u011b vzd\u00e1len\u00fdch zem\u00edch po n\u011b\u010dem nov\u00e9m. To je komplex vlastnost\u00ed, kter\u00e9 n\u00e1m \u010cech\u016fm trochu chyb\u00ed. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 je ale mo\u017en\u00e9 vid\u011bt n\u011bkter\u00e9 principy toho, jak je u mlad\u00fdch lid\u00ed podporov\u00e1na samostatnost a podnikavost v tom nej\u0161ir\u0161\u00edm smyslu. A to lze implementovat do v\u00fdchovy a vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed pom\u011brn\u011b dob\u0159e. <\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n
Jak\u00fd je rozd\u00edl v p\u0159\u00edstupu ke vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed ve Skandin\u00e1vii a u n\u00e1s?\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\nV d\u00e1nsk\u00fdch \u0161kol\u00e1ch, kdy\u017e u\u010ditel polo\u017e\u00ed ot\u00e1zku, \u0159ekne \u201cA vy, co to v\u00edte, tak se nehla\u0161te.\u201d A to je p\u0159esn\u011b ono, to je jednoduch\u00e9 a p\u0159itom geni\u00e1ln\u00ed. Nechce zn\u00e1t odpov\u011b\u010f t\u011bch, kte\u0159\u00ed to v\u011bd\u00ed. Ty m\u016f\u017ee ohodnotit, ale pot\u0159ebuje odpov\u011b\u010f t\u011bch, kte\u0159\u00ed to nev\u011bd\u00ed, nebo si nejsou jist\u00ed. T\u00edm je zbavuje strachu z toho, \u017ee ud\u011blaj\u00ed chybu, a z\u00e1rove\u0148 jim to m\u016f\u017ee vyjasnit. Setkal jsem se tam s p\u0159\u00edstupem \u201cShit happens\u201d. Mlad\u00ed lidi nemaj\u00ed obavu z toho, \u017ee ud\u011blaj\u00ed chybu. Kdy\u017e tu obavu nem\u00e1te, tak se \u010dast\u011bji pust\u00edte do v\u011bc\u00ed, kter\u00e9 se nemus\u00ed poda\u0159it. A to je p\u0159esn\u011b ten rozd\u00edl. My nepot\u0159ebujeme, aby v\u0161ichni \u010ce\u0161i byli podnikatel\u00e9, my pot\u0159ebujeme zhruba o t\u011bch 10 % v\u00edce mlad\u00fdch lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed se nebudou b\u00e1t j\u00edt realizovat sv\u00e9 projekty. Ale ti mus\u00ed m\u00edt v tom sv\u00e9m v\u011bdom\u00ed zakotveno to \u201cshit happens\u201d. Selh\u00e1n\u00ed je sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed na\u0161ich \u017eivot\u016f a od nich se m\u016f\u017eeme odr\u00e1\u017eet k dal\u0161\u00edm pokus\u016fm. <\/span>
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\n<\/span>V D\u00e1nsku jsou zvykl\u00ed, \u017ee za chybu se netrest\u00e1. Ten strach z chyby nen\u00ed tak markantn\u00ed, jak u n\u00e1s. Tady jsou d\u011bti vychov\u00e1v\u00e1ny, \u017ee kdy\u017e ud\u011bl\u00e1\u0161 chybu, dostane\u0161 trest, p\u011btku, \u010dern\u00fd punt\u00edk. Z dlouhodob\u00e9ho hlediska pak \u010dlov\u011bk dost\u00e1v\u00e1 obavu z pou\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed se do n\u011b\u010deho, v \u010dem si nen\u00ed jist\u00fd. Jen\u017ee ka\u017ed\u00e1 inovace je zalo\u017eena na tom, \u017ee se \u010dlov\u011bk pou\u0161t\u00ed n\u011bkam, kde nem\u00e1 oporu, kde si nen\u00ed jist\u00fd. Je to ohled\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed nov\u00e9ho ter\u00e9nu, nov\u00e1 cesta. Kdy\u017e se pod\u00edv\u00e1me na inova\u010dn\u00ed mapu Evropy, tak krom\u011b velk\u00fdch center jako Pa\u0159\u00ed\u017e, Lond\u00fdn a n\u011bkter\u00e1 n\u011bmeck\u00e1 m\u011bsta, je to ta Skandin\u00e1vie. Znovu se vrac\u00edme k tomu, pro\u010d m\u00e1 velk\u00fd smysl se p\u0159i podpo\u0159e inovac\u00ed zab\u00fdvat vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00edm. Sice plody toho sklid\u00edme a\u017e t\u0159eba za 15 let, ale to nevad\u00ed. Charakteristika skandin\u00e1vsk\u00e9 mentality je tak\u00e9 to, \u017ee mysl\u00ed d\u00e1l ne\u017e v horizontu p\u00e1r let.<\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n
Mysl\u00edte, \u017ee ve skandin\u00e1vsk\u00fdch zem\u00ed je byrokracie pro za\u010d\u00e1tek podnik\u00e1n\u00ed jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\nUr\u010dit\u011b funguje i byrokracie jednodu\u0161eji. Ale to je d\u00e1no t\u00edm, \u017ee lid\u00e9 tam maj\u00ed v hlav\u011b to, \u017ee sleduj\u00ed jeden c\u00edl. Kdy\u017e m\u00e1te politika, \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edka, exekutivu, nebo n\u011bjak\u00fd nezisk, tak pokud maj\u00ed jeden c\u00edl, t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 stoprocentn\u011b najdou \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed. Pokud ale nesleduj\u00ed jeden spole\u010dn\u00fd c\u00edl, je pochopiteln\u00e9, \u017ee se nedohodnou. A to je velk\u00fd rozd\u00edl oproti \u010desk\u00e9 skute\u010dnosti. Tady se \u010dasto setk\u00e1v\u00e1me s t\u00edm, \u017ee se deklaruje spole\u010dn\u00fd c\u00edl, ale evidentn\u011b to tak nen\u00ed. N\u011bkde v pozad\u00ed sledujeme c\u00edle odli\u0161n\u00e9. To j\u00e1 naz\u00fdv\u00e1m pracovn\u011b privatizac\u00ed p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitost\u00ed, \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b privatizac\u00ed ve\u0159ejn\u00e9ho prostoru – kdy\u017e ti, kte\u0159\u00ed by m\u011bli m\u00edt na starosti zejm\u00e9na ve\u0159ejn\u00fd z\u00e1jem, n\u011bkde na pozad\u00ed sleduj\u00ed vlastn\u00ed \u010di skupinov\u00e9 c\u00edle. To je zcela jednozna\u010dn\u011b poz\u016fstatek totalitn\u00ed mentality. S t\u00edm se tu neust\u00e1le setk\u00e1v\u00e1me.<\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n
Na konferenci Inova\u010dn\u00ed vize Prahy 2030 byli p\u0159\u00edtomn\u00ed panelist\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed maj\u00ed k inovac\u00edm kladn\u00fd vztah, a\u0165 u\u017e se jedn\u00e1 o progresivn\u00ed st\u0159edn\u00ed \u0161kolu, z\u00e1stupce \u0160koda DigiLabu nebo zakladatele architektonick\u00e9ho studia zab\u00fdvaj\u00edc\u00edho se cirkul\u00e1rn\u00ed ekonomikou. Jak ale takov\u00fd p\u0159\u00edstup co nejv\u00edce roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159it?\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\nJ\u00e1 mysl\u00edm, \u017ee n\u00e1m v sou\u010dasnosti nejde o roz\u0161i\u0159ov\u00e1n\u00ed, d\u011bje se toho pom\u011brn\u011b hodn\u011b. Sp\u00ed\u0161e o hled\u00e1n\u00ed synergick\u00fdch moment\u016f, u kter\u00fdch se m\u016f\u017eeme v\u0161ichni sej\u00edt a definovat spole\u010dn\u00fd c\u00edl. Je tak\u00e9 pot\u0159eba p\u0159ekonat vnit\u0159n\u00ed bari\u00e9ry privatizace p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitost\u00ed a ve\u0159ejn\u00e9ho z\u00e1jmu. To se m\u016f\u017ee da\u0159it l\u00e9pe \u010di h\u016f\u0159e. V\u00fdznamn\u011b to z\u00e1vis\u00ed na tom, do jak\u00e9 m\u00edry si podobn\u00fd p\u0159\u00edstup osvoj\u00ed lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed reprezentuj\u00ed politickou sf\u00e9ru. <\/span><\/p>\nMy jsme tu jako n\u011bkdo, kdo je p\u0159ipraven ud\u011blat maximum, ale mus\u00edme dostat v\u00fdzvu, mus\u00edme k tomu b\u00fdt zplnomocn\u011bn\u00ed. My se sna\u017e\u00edme vyhled\u00e1vat p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitosti, sami jsme nav\u00e1zali vztah, ani\u017e bychom takov\u00e9 zad\u00e1n\u00ed m\u011bli. Sami jsme \u0161li za vysok\u00fdmi \u0161kolami, abychom je mohli vt\u00e1hnout do d\u011bn\u00ed v Praze. Tak\u00e9 jsme zalo\u017eili program Do toho!, kter\u00fdm \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u011b pro\u0161lo na 250 mal\u00fdch a st\u0159edn\u00edch podnik\u016f, kter\u00fdm se dostalo mentoringu a konzultac\u00ed. Bylo to za p\u0159isp\u011bn\u00ed Prahy, ale \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 takov\u00e9 zad\u00e1n\u00ed jsme nedostali. <\/span><\/p>\nTo jsou v\u0161echno aktivity, co my m\u016f\u017eeme d\u011blat, ale jen do ur\u010dit\u00e9 m\u00edry. Jsme st\u0159edn\u011b velk\u00e1 organizace a z hlediska rozvoje jsme v\u00fdrazn\u011b omezeni. Jsme limitov\u00e1ni rozpo\u010dtem. Jakmile budeme od hlavn\u00edho m\u011bsta m\u00edt zad\u00e1n\u00ed, jsme schopni ud\u011blat mnohem v\u00edce. Te\u010f se hovo\u0159\u00ed o vytvo\u0159en\u00ed grantov\u00e9ho sch\u00e9matu pro p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u00ed rok. Praha by vlo\u017eila ur\u010ditou \u010d\u00e1st finan\u010dn\u00edch prost\u0159edk\u016f a Pra\u017esk\u00fd inova\u010dn\u00ed institut by mohl tyto prost\u0159edky rozd\u011blovat na z\u00e1klad\u011b zhodnocen\u00ed projekt\u016f dle ur\u010dit\u00fdch krit\u00e9ri\u00ed a nez\u00e1visl\u00fdch hodnotitel\u016f. D\u011blali bychom to podle podobn\u00e9ho sch\u00e9matu, jako jsme d\u011blali konferenci. Vyb\u00edrali bychom, kde Praha strategicky m\u00e1 z\u00e1m\u011br sv\u00e9ho vlastn\u00edho rozvoje. Pak by d\u00e1vala kone\u010dn\u011b smysl strategie na pap\u00ed\u0159e a re\u00e1ln\u00e9 aktivity v re\u00e1ln\u00e9m \u017eivot\u011b.<\/span><\/p>\n(foto: Pra\u017esk\u00fd inova\u010dn\u00ed institut)<\/em><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Pra\u017esk\u00fd inova\u010dn\u00ed institut (PII) je unik\u00e1tn\u00ed inova\u010dn\u00ed centrum v \u010cesku zam\u011b\u0159en\u00e9 na rozvoj vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed. Spolupracuje se \u0161kolami a pom\u00e1h\u00e1 rozv\u00edjet spole\u010dn\u00e9 vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed skrze inovace, kter\u00e9 podporuj\u00ed rozvoj m\u011bstsk\u00e9 infrastruktury a zlep\u0161uj\u00ed \u017eivotn\u00ed prost\u0159ed\u00ed metropole. Oslovili jsme \u0159editele Institutu, Boba Kartouse, aby n\u00e1m odpov\u011bd\u011bl na n\u011bkolik ot\u00e1zek o fungov\u00e1n\u00ed a \u010dinnosti PII. Prvn\u00ed \u010d\u00e1st rozhovoru jste […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1899,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[328],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1898","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blog-cs-cs"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"\n
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